💸 Do you have examples of bad vehicles?
- This $31,000 Porsche Panamera Scam Was Drowned And Rolled BackDoes the water actually smell? Another example of a really bad deal.
- 2016 BMW i8 For $35,000: Scam or Score?This luxury BMW has changed not only its color but also odometer value.
- This Nissan Armada Just Keeps Getting Younger...Or Does It?Bought wrecked for $725 with 202k miles, on salvage auction again with 150k miles.
- Title Washing Maserati MoneypitSalvage Grand Turismo with odometer rolled back several times within a few years.
- 2014 JEEP WRANGLERSalvage title with blown airbags. Fully fixed with suspicious odometer.
- 2005 TOYOTA TACOMABought for $4k with 279k miles, cleaned, and on sale for $7k with 96k miles.
- 2005 DODGE MAGNUMTwo salvage auctions within a year. Odometer changed from 232k mi to 118k mi.
- 2005 BMW X3Salvaged several times within a year. Odometer rolled back after the accident.
- 2015 HONDA CROSSTOUROdometer was potentially rolled back from 78k mi to 36k mi.
- 2014 PORSCHE CAYENNE
- 2016 NISSAN SENTRA
All info from Basic Report
Full list of events (better than CARFAX)
Odometer readings from DMV
Save up to $65 on CARFAX and AutoCheck
100% satisfaction guarantee
6 sale reports from different sources
38 actual photos
Odometer readings from sales
Bids and final prices
Real sale descriptions
Not enough reasons to want it? Try to click here.
Why BADVIN is better than other VIN reports?
We give you not only record like a car was at some auction on some date, we give you exact price how much it was sold for, we show you pictures that were used on that auction. So will be able to see how car looked some time ago.
Also we include all events for this VIN, so you will get most of following information:
- Vehicle Specifications
- Title Records and Title Checks
- Junk, Salvage
- Lien, Impound and Theft Records
- Insurance Records
- Owner History, Registered State
- Many other important records
We guarantee that our events list contains all information you need to make a decision about buying the car. If you find our Premium Report not sufficient enough, MONEY BACK GUARANTEED.
Would like to see some examples before purchase? Click here.
- This $31,000 Porsche Panamera Scam Was Drowned And Rolled BackDoes the water actually smell? Another example of a really bad deal.
- 2016 BMW i8 For $35,000: Scam or Score?This luxury BMW has changed not only its color but also odometer value.
- This Nissan Armada Just Keeps Getting Younger...Or Does It?Bought wrecked for $725 with 202k miles, on salvage auction again with 150k miles.
- Title Washing Maserati MoneypitSalvage Grand Turismo with odometer rolled back several times within a few years.
- 2014 JEEP WRANGLERSalvage title with blown airbags. Fully fixed with suspicious odometer.
- 2005 TOYOTA TACOMABought for $4k with 279k miles, cleaned, and on sale for $7k with 96k miles.
- 2005 DODGE MAGNUMTwo salvage auctions within a year. Odometer changed from 232k mi to 118k mi.
- 2005 BMW X3Salvaged several times within a year. Odometer rolled back after the accident.
- 2015 HONDA CROSSTOUROdometer was potentially rolled back from 78k mi to 36k mi.
- 2014 PORSCHE CAYENNE
- 2016 NISSAN SENTRA
If you want to get full information about the car, your best option is Premium Report for $5.99+.
If you need only sale information, your best choice is Basic Report. You won't get detailed list of events but you will get all photos and other data from all sales that we have for this vehicle. Basic reports available only for dealer membership.
Summary for VIN KNAE35LC0L6084514
Make | KIA |
Model | STINGER |
Trim | GT |
Body Style | Sedan |
Color | Blue |
Transmission | 8-Speed Automatic |
Engine | 3.3L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo |
Drive | AWD |
Fuel Type | Gasoline |
BADVIN Premium Report
Window Sticker
Sale Record — 10 months ago in Lansing, IL, 60438
Year | 2020 |
ODO | 7041 mi |
Seller | Hidden text (Hidden text) |
Location | Lansing, IL, 60438 |
Date | appeared 10 months ago latest price $7835 sale post disappeared 2021-10-08 |
Price History | |
Sale Website Type | classifieds |
Notes | |
4826 |
Tech Specs
Body Style | Sedan |
Color | Deep Chroma Blue |
Color (Interior) | Brown |
Transmission | 8-Speed Automatic |
Engine | 3.3L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo |
Drive | All-wheel Drive |
Fuel Type | Gasoline |
Photos
All photos below are REAL and display ACTUAL car. After you get the report you will see full resolution photos.
Standard Features
- 2773
- Air Conditioning
- Hidden text
- Automatic Temperature Control
- Hidden text
- Cargo tie downs
- Hidden text
- Dark chrome grille
- Hidden text
- Driver And Passenger Heated-Cushion, Driver And Passenger Heated-Seatback
- Hidden text
- Emergency Communication System: Uvo Eservices
- Hidden text
- Front Bucket Seats
- Hidden text
- Front and rear suspension stabilizer bars
- Hidden text
- Heated Front Bucket Seats
- Hidden text
- Interior air filtration
- Hidden text
- Max cargo capacity: 41 cu.ft.
- Hidden text
- Panic alarm
- Hidden text
- Power remote trunk release
- Hidden text
- Rear Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Rear area cargo cover: Rigid
- Hidden text
- Remote activated exterior entry lights
- Hidden text
- Speed control
- Hidden text
- Strut front suspension
- Hidden text
- Tires: Speed Rating: V
- Hidden text
- Type of tires: Summer Performance
- Hidden text
- Wheels: 19 x 8.0 Front & 19 x 8.5 Rear Alloy
- 3189
- ABS And Driveline Traction Control
- Hidden text
- Audio controls on steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Bumpers: Body-Color
- Hidden text
- Cupholders: Front and rear
- Hidden text
- Driver Seat Head Restraint Whiplash Protection
- Hidden text
- Electrochromatic rearview mirror
- Hidden text
- Four-wheel independent suspension
- Hidden text
- Front ventilated disc brakes
- Hidden text
- Headlights off auto delay
- Hidden text
- Indigo Special Edition Package
- Hidden text
- Machined aluminum rims w/ painted accents
- Hidden text
- Overhead console
- Hidden text
- Power Steering
- Hidden text
- Radio: AM/FM/MP3/HD/SiriusXM harman/kardon Audio
- Hidden text
- Rear Window Defroster
- Hidden text
- Remote Keyless Entry
- Hidden text
- SiriusXM Satellite Radio(TM)
- Hidden text
- Stability Control
- Hidden text
- Tires: Prefix: P
- Hidden text
- Turn signal in mirrors
- Hidden text
- Wheel Width: 8.5
- 7361
- Alloy Wheels
- Hidden text
- Automatic front air conditioning
- Hidden text
- CARPETED FLOOR MAT
- Hidden text
- Daytime Running Lights
- Hidden text
- Driver knee airbags
- Hidden text
- Engine Immobilizer
- Hidden text
- Front Center Armrest
- Hidden text
- Fuel Capacity: 15.9 gal.
- Hidden text
- Heated Front Seats
- Hidden text
- Knee Airbag
- Hidden text
- Multi-Link Rear Suspension
- Hidden text
- Passenger Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power remote w/tilt down driver mirror adjustment
- Hidden text
- Rear Head Room: 37.0"
- Hidden text
- Rear bench
- Hidden text
- Remote power door locks
- Hidden text
- Speed Sensitive Audio Volume Control
- Hidden text
- Suspension class: Regular
- Hidden text
- Tires: Width: 255 mm
- Hidden text
- UVO
- Hidden text
- Window Grid Antenna
- 5742
- ABS Brakes
- Hidden text
- Apple CarPlay & Android Auto
- Hidden text
- Bucket Front Seats
- Hidden text
- Cruise controls on steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Driver Door Bin
- Hidden text
- Dusk sensing headlights
- Hidden text
- Four Wheel Independent Suspension
- Hidden text
- Front Shoulder Room: 56.4"
- Hidden text
- Head Restraint Whiplash Protection with Passenger Seat
- Hidden text
- Independent rear suspension
- Hidden text
- Low Tire Pressure Warning
- Hidden text
- Overhead Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power Passenger Seat
- Hidden text
- Radio: Am/Fm/Mp3/Hd/Siriusxm Audio System
- Hidden text
- Rear Stabilizer Bar: Regular
- Hidden text
- Regular front stabilizer bar
- Hidden text
- SiriusXM AM/FM/HD/Satellite Radio
- Hidden text
- Sport Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System: Tire specific
- Hidden text
- Turn Signal Indicator Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Wheel Diameter: 19
- 1999
- AM/FM radio: SiriusXM
- Hidden text
- Auto-Dimming Rear-View Mirror
- Hidden text
- Cargo area light
- Hidden text
- Curb weight: 4,023 lbs.
- Hidden text
- Driver Vanity Mirror
- Hidden text
- Electronic stability control
- Hidden text
- Front Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Front and rear reading lights
- Hidden text
- Heated Door Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Instrumentation: Low fuel level
- Hidden text
- Manufacturer's 0-60mph acceleration time (seconds): 6.0 s
- Hidden text
- Overhead console: Mini with storage
- Hidden text
- Power Sunroof
- Hidden text
- Rear air conditioning
- Hidden text
- Rear air conditioning with separate controls
- Hidden text
- Remote Start (Push-Button Start)
- Hidden text
- Spare Tire Mount Location: Inside under cargo
- Hidden text
- Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
- Hidden text
- Tires: Profile: 35
- Hidden text
- Twin Turbo
- Hidden text
- Wheelbase: 114.4"
Sale Record — 10 months ago in Lansing, IL, 60438
2020 Kia Stinger GT
Year | 2020 |
ODO | 4343 mi |
Seller | Hidden text (Hidden text) |
Location | Lansing, IL, 60438 |
Date | appeared 10 months ago latest price $5000 sale post disappeared 2019-06-13 |
Price History | |
Sale Website Type | classifieds |
Notes | |
8741 |
Tech Specs
Color | Deep Chroma Blue Exterior |
Transmission | 8-Speed Automatic Transmission |
Drive | All wheel drive |
Photos
All photos below are REAL and display ACTUAL car. After you get the report you will see full resolution photos.
Standard Features
- 19" Unique Alloy Wheels
- Hidden text
- Automatic Temperature Control
- Hidden text
- Exterior Parking Camera Rear
- Hidden text
- Heated Front Seats
- Hidden text
- Overhead console
- Hidden text
- Puddle Lamp
- 8360
- Anti-Whiplash Front Head Restraints
- Hidden text
- Dual Front Impact Airbags
- Hidden text
- Fully Automatic Headlights
- Hidden text
- Occupant Sensing Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power Passenger Seat
- Hidden text
- Rear Window Defroster
- Hidden text
- Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
- Hidden text
- ABS Brakes
- Hidden text
- CARPETED FLOOR MAT
- Hidden text
- Front Center Armrest
- Hidden text
- Indigo Special Edition Package
- Hidden text
- Passenger Vanity Mirror
- Hidden text
- Rear air conditioning
- Hidden text
- Speed-Sensing Steering
- Hidden text
- Variably Intermittent Wipers
- 2305
- Alloy Wheels
- Hidden text
- Driver Vanity Mirror
- Hidden text
- Front reading lights
- Hidden text
- Low Tire Pressure Warning
- Hidden text
- Power Driver Seat
- Hidden text
- Rear seat center armrest
- Hidden text
- Sport Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- AM/FM radio: SiriusXM
- Hidden text
- Delay-Off Headlights
- Hidden text
- Front Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Knee Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power Sunroof
- Hidden text
- Rear Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Split folding rear seat
- Hidden text
- Wheels: 19" x 8.0 Front & 19" x 8.5 Rear Alloy
- Hidden text
- Security System
- Hidden text
- Tilt steering wheel
Sale Record — 2 years ago
Year | 2020 |
ODO | 2878 mi |
Seller | Hidden text (Hidden text) |
Location | undefined, undefined, undefined |
Date | appeared 2 years ago latest price $4056 sale post disappeared 2023-03-02 |
Sale Website Type | classifieds |
Notes | |
1795 |
Tech Specs
Body Style | Sedan |
Color | Indigo Blue |
Color (Interior) | Dark Brown |
Transmission | 8-Speed Automatic |
Engine | 3.3L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo |
Drive | All-wheel Drive |
Fuel Type | Gasoline |
Photos
All photos below are REAL and display ACTUAL car. After you get the report you will see full resolution photos.
Standard Features
- Hidden text
- *Leather*
- Hidden text
- 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
- Hidden text
- Aluminum spare wheel rim
- Hidden text
- Body-colored bumpers
- Hidden text
- Coil rear spring
- Hidden text
- Door pockets: Driver, passenger and rear
- Hidden text
- Dual front air conditioning zones
- Hidden text
- First Aid Kit
- Hidden text
- Front Hip Room: 55.5"
- Hidden text
- Fuel Type: Premium unleaded
- Hidden text
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Leather/chrome shift knob trim
- Hidden text
- Outside temperature display
- Hidden text
- Passenger Vanity Mirror
- Hidden text
- Power retractable mirrors
- Hidden text
- Rear Shoulder Room: 54.8"
- Hidden text
- Rear seats center armrest
- Hidden text
- Side airbag
- Hidden text
- Sport Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System: Tire specific
- Hidden text
- Turn Signal Indicator Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Wheel Diameter: 19
- Hidden text
- *Navigation System*
- Hidden text
- 9 Speakers
- Hidden text
- Anti-Theft Alarm System
- Hidden text
- Braking Assist
- Hidden text
- Cruise controls on steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Driver Door Bin
- Hidden text
- Dual reverse tilt mirrors
- Hidden text
- Fold forward seatback rear seats
- Hidden text
- Front reading lights
- Hidden text
- Gross vehicle weight: 5,148 lbs.
- Hidden text
- Independent front suspension classification
- Hidden text
- Left rear passenger door type: Conventional
- Hidden text
- Overall Width: 73.6"
- Hidden text
- Power Door Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Privacy glass: Light
- Hidden text
- Rear view camera
- Hidden text
- Regular front stabilizer bar
- Hidden text
- Spare Tire Mount Location: Inside under cargo
- Hidden text
- Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
- Hidden text
- Tires: Profile: 35
- Hidden text
- Twin Turbo
- Hidden text
- Wheelbase: 114.4"
- Hidden text
- *Bluetooth*
- Hidden text
- 1st and 2nd row curtain head airbags
- Hidden text
- Aluminum center console trim
- Hidden text
- Auxilliary engine cooler
- Hidden text
- Clock: In-radio display
- Hidden text
- Diameter of tires: 19.0"
- Hidden text
- Dual Front Impact Airbags
- Hidden text
- Exterior Parking Camera Rear
- Hidden text
- Front Dual Zone A/C
- Hidden text
- Fuel Consumption: City: 17 mpg
- Hidden text
- Heated driver mirror
- Hidden text
- Leather Seat Trim
- Hidden text
- Navigation System
- Hidden text
- Passenger Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power remote w/tilt down driver mirror adjustment
- Hidden text
- Rear reading lights
- Hidden text
- Rear door type: Liftgate
- Hidden text
- Seatbelt pretensioners: Front
- Hidden text
- Split folding rear seat
- Hidden text
- Tilt steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Transmission hill holder
- Hidden text
- Vehicle Emissions: LEV3-ULEV125
- Hidden text
- *** CERTIFIED ***
- Hidden text
- *ONE OF A KIND*
- 4018
- ABS And Driveline Traction Control
- Hidden text
- Audio controls on steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Bumpers: Body-Color
- Hidden text
- Curb weight: 4,023 lbs.
- Hidden text
- Driver Vanity Mirror
- Hidden text
- Electrochromatic rearview mirror
- Hidden text
- Four-wheel independent suspension
- Hidden text
- Front ventilated disc brakes
- Hidden text
- Headlights off auto delay
- Hidden text
- Instrumentation: Low fuel level
- Hidden text
- Machined aluminum rims w/ painted accents
- Hidden text
- Overhead Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power Passenger Seat
- Hidden text
- Rear Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Rear air conditioning
- Hidden text
- Remote activated exterior entry lights
- Hidden text
- Speed Sensitive Audio Volume Control
- Hidden text
- Suspension class: Regular
- Hidden text
- Tires: Width: 255 mm
- Hidden text
- UVO
- Hidden text
- Window Grid Antenna
- Hidden text
- *MUST GO!*
- Hidden text
- 4-wheel ABS Brakes
- Hidden text
- Anti-Whiplash Front Head Restraints
- Hidden text
- Brake Assist
- Hidden text
- Cruise Control
- Hidden text
- Door reinforcement: Side-impact door beam
- Hidden text
- Dual illuminated vanity mirrors
- Hidden text
- Floor mats: Carpet front and rear
- Hidden text
- Front Leg Room: 42.6"
- Hidden text
- Fully Automatic Headlights
- Hidden text
- Illuminated entry
- Hidden text
- Leather/metal-look steering wheel trim
- Hidden text
- Overall Length: 190.2"
- Hidden text
- Permanent Locking Hubs
- Hidden text
- Power Windows
- Hidden text
- Rear Stabilizer Bar: Regular
- Hidden text
- Rear spoiler: Lip
- Hidden text
- SiriusXM AM/FM/HD/Satellite Radio
- Hidden text
- Stability Control
- Hidden text
- Tires: Prefix: P
- Hidden text
- Turn signal in mirrors
- Hidden text
- Wheel Width: 8.5
Sale Record — 2 years ago in Matteson, IL, 60443
Year | 2020 |
ODO | 1206 mi |
Condition | Hidden text |
Seller | Hidden text |
Location | Matteson, IL, 60443 |
Date | appeared 2 years ago latest price $8516 |
Sale Website Type | classifieds |
Notes | |
4338 |
Tech Specs
Body Style | Sedan |
Color | Blue |
Color (Interior) | Brown |
Transmission | Automatic |
Engine | 3.3 L |
Cylinders | 6 Cyl |
Drive | AWD |
Fuel Type | Gasoline |
Photos
All photos below are REAL and display ACTUAL car. After you get the report you will see full resolution photos.
Extra Features
- 19 Inch Wheels
- Hidden text
- Heated Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Leather Seats
- Hidden text
- Protection Package
- Hidden text
Standard Features
- 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
- 2698
- 9 Speakers
- Hidden text
- Adjustable Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Android Auto
- Hidden text
- Anti-Theft System
- Hidden text
- Auto Climate Control
- Hidden text
- Automatic Headlights
- Hidden text
- Braking Assist
- Hidden text
- Delay-Off Headlights
- Hidden text
- Dual-Zone Climate Control
- Hidden text
- Front Airbags (Driver)
- Hidden text
- Front Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Front Center Armrest
- Hidden text
- Front Side Airbags (Driver)
- Hidden text
- Handsfree/Bluetooth Integration
- Hidden text
- Illuminated Entry
- Hidden text
- Kia UVO
- Hidden text
- Leather Trimmed Seats
- Hidden text
- Overhead Airbag
- Hidden text
- Panic Button
- Hidden text
- Power Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Power Steering
- Hidden text
- Power Windows
- Hidden text
- Rear Air Conditioning
- Hidden text
- Rear Center Armrest
- Hidden text
- Rear-View Camera
- Hidden text
- Satellite Radio
- Hidden text
- Split/Folding Seats
- Hidden text
- Stability Control
- Hidden text
- Tachometer
- Hidden text
- Thermometer
- Hidden text
- Traction Control
- Hidden text
- Turn Signal Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Warranty
Sale Record — 4 years ago in Matteson, IL, 60443
Year | 2020 |
ODO | 452 mi |
Seller | Hidden text (Hidden text) |
MSRP | $6462 |
Location | Matteson, IL, 60443 |
Date | appeared 4 years ago latest price $2528 sale post disappeared 2023-04-20 |
Sale Website Type | classifieds |
Notes | |
Hidden text |
Tech Specs
Body Style | Sedan |
Color | Deep Chroma Blue |
Transmission | 8-Speed Automatic |
Engine | 3.3L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo |
Drive | AWD |
Fuel Type | Gasoline |
Photos
All photos below are REAL and display ACTUAL car. After you get the report you will see full resolution photos.
Extra Features
- Air Conditioning
- Hidden text
- Dual Front Impact Airbags
- Hidden text
- Front reading lights
- Hidden text
- Outside temperature display
- Hidden text
- Puddle lights
- Hidden text
- 9 Speakers
- Hidden text
- Delay-Off Headlights
- Hidden text
- Front Bucket Seats
- Hidden text
- Leather Seat Trim
- Hidden text
- Power Driver Seat
- Hidden text
- Remote Start Push
- Hidden text
- Brake Assist
- Hidden text
- Exterior Parking Camera Rear
- Hidden text
- Heated Front Seats
- Hidden text
- Passenger Door Bin
- Hidden text
- Speed-Sensing Steering
- Hidden text
- Variably Intermittent Wipers,
- Hidden text
- Tilt steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Speed control
- Hidden text
- Turn Signal Indicator Mirrors
- Hidden text
- ABS Brakes
- Hidden text
- CARPETED FLOOR MAT
- Hidden text
- Dual front side impact airbags
- Hidden text
- Front Anti-Roll Bar
- Hidden text
- Fully Automatic Headlights
- Hidden text
- Knee Airbag
- Hidden text
- Overhead Airbag
- Hidden text
- Power Door Mirrors
- Hidden text
- Radio: Am/Fm/Mp3/Hd/Siriusxm Audio System
- Hidden text
- Remote Keyless Entry
- Hidden text
- Speed-Sensitive Wipers
- Hidden text
- Telescoping Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Wheels: 19 x 8.0 Front & 19 x 8.5 Rear Alloy
Standard Features
- ABS And Driveline Traction Control
- Hidden text
- Cargo area light
- Hidden text
- Electrochromatic rearview mirror
- Hidden text
- Heated passenger mirror
- Hidden text
- Power remote w/tilt down driver mirror adjustment
- Hidden text
- Bluetooth Wireless Phone Connectivity
- Hidden text
- Dual front air conditioning zones
- Hidden text
- Fuel Consumption: Highway: 25 mpg
- Hidden text
- Max cargo capacity: 41 cu.ft.
- Hidden text
- Audio controls on steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Braking Assist
- Hidden text
- Dual illuminated vanity mirrors
- Hidden text
- Fuel Type: Premium unleaded
- Hidden text
- Passenger Airbag
- Hidden text
- Rear seats center armrest
- Hidden text
- Rear air conditioning
- Hidden text
- Speed-proportional electric power steering
- Hidden text
- Twin Turbo
- Hidden text
- Side airbag
- Hidden text
- Transmission gear shifting controls on steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Tachometer
- Hidden text
- Vehicle Emissions: ULEV II
- Hidden text
- Driver And Passenger Heated-Seatback
- Hidden text
- Bucket Front Seats
- Hidden text
- Dual reverse tilt mirrors
- Hidden text
- Heated driver mirror
- Hidden text
- Power remote trunk release
- Hidden text
- Rear spoiler: Lip
- Hidden text
- Tilt and telescopic steering wheel
- Hidden text
- Video Monitor Location: Front
- Hidden text
- Cruise control,4-wheel ABS Brakes
- Hidden text
- External temperature display
- Hidden text
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Hidden text
- Power remote w/tilt down passenger mirror adjustment
- Hidden text
- Remote power door locks
- Hidden text
- Total Number of Speakers: 9
- Hidden text
- Wheel Width: 8.5